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Minister says Ken Clarke has questions to answer, as infected blood campaigners say he should lose peerage over scandal
A cabinet minister has said Ken Clarke has questions to answer after campaigners said he should lose his peerage over his role in the infected blood scandal.
Clarke, who was a health minister and health secretary in the 1980s, was one of the former ministers criticised most explicitly in yesterdayâs report. Although Sir Brian Langstaff made it clear that the scandal went on for decades, and involved politicians and officials from multiple administrations, Clarke is a particular bête noir for campaigners because of the unsympathetic tone he struck when he gave evidence.
Des Collins, a solicitor representing victims of the scandal, told the Daily Telegraph: âThe chair to the inquiry thinks [Clarke] was wrong back in the day and I think yes, he should have his peerage stripped. Take no prisoners. There are a lot who havenât been singled out but he was one of them.â
This morning Clive Smith, chairman of the Haemophilia Society, told LBC that Clarke gave evidence to the inquiry that was âbreathtaking in the extremeâ.
Asked if Clarke should lose his peerage, Smith said:
We wrote to the upper house when it was suggested that he was going to get a peerage, saying âPlease donât do that yet, wait until the infected blood inquiry has reportedâ.
Now we have the conclusions of the infected blood inquiry report, I think our letter was well-timed and entirely accurate. The way in which he gave his evidence (to the inquiry) was appalling.
Yesterday Smith said Clarke should apologise to victims, not just for what he did as a minister, but for the manner in which he gave evidence to the inquiry.
Removing a peerage from someone is an extreme measure. It requires an act of parliament, and it has not happened since the first world war, when some peers lost their titles because they had supported Germany.
In an interview with Sky News this morning, Mel Stride, the work and pensions secretary, ducked a question about Clarkeâs peerage, saying that was a matter for the honours forfeiture committee.
But Stride did not fully support his Tory colleague, and he said Clarke had questions to answer. He said:
Sir Brian has come forward with some very strong observations of Ken, in the context of the scandal. Clearly there are questions that Iâve no doubt Ken will be addressing in time.
As PA Media reports, in 1983, an Aids leaflet was published alongside a press release in which Lord Clarke said: âIt has been suggested that Aids may be transmitted in blood or blood products. There is no conclusive proof that this is so.â That line was repeated over several years.
Langstaff said in his report on Monday:
This line to take, whilst technically correct, was indefensible. It did not spell out the real risk. It gave false reassurance.
It lacked candour and, by not telling the whole truth, was misleading.
It was not an accurate reflection of the (Department of Healthâs) actual understanding, which was that it was likely that Aids was transmitted through blood and blood products.
No minister challenged the âno conclusive proofâ line. They should have done.
Key events
Gove is now taking questions.
Asked if the UK would enforce an arrest warrant issued by the international criminal court against Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli PM, Gove says he is not a laywer, but he says it was wrong for the ICC to imply equivalence between Israel and Hamas.
Gove says he wants to appoint independent adviser to deal with anti-Muslim hatred, to match antisemitism adviser
Gove says the report being published by John Woodcock today on political violence is âbrilliantâ in its analysis.
And he says its recommendatons are compelling and far-reaching. He goes on:
Some will require detailed debate and thought, but that cannot be an excuse for delay in dealing with the challenges that he addresses. We must make rapid progress to deal with the intimidatory consequences of marches.
He says the government needs to bolster the role of the independent adviser on antisemitism. And he says he will establish a parallel adviser on anti-Muslim hatred.
Gove claims that the anti-Israel protests that have sprung up on university campuses around the world have not appeared in a vacuum, and are the product of âyears of ideological radicalisationâ.
He says the decolonisation narrative is attractive to authoritarian states, because the iddea that âthe success of liberal Western nations is built on plunderâ undermines their legitimacy.
And he says delegitimising Israel is important to the left âbecause Israel is transparently successful because of its democratic values, not exploitationâ.
Gove claims BDS campaign against Israel antisemitic
In his speech Michael Gove is now addressing what he calls âthe BDS campaignâ â the boycott, divestment, sanctions campaign aimed at Israel. He says he sees it as âexplicitly antisemiticâ. He says the ideologue behind it does not accept the right for Israel to exist.
Gove says it is legitimate, and sometimes necessary, to criticise the actions of the state of Israel.
But he says Israel is being singled out in a way that does not happen to other countries.
There are new BDS campaigns directed against Bashar Assadâs Syrian regime guilty of killing more Muslims in living memory than any other.
There are no student encampments, urging university administrators to cut all ties with China given what is happening in Xinjiang or Hong Kong, or what happened in Tibet.
I know of no efforts to organise marches in their thousands to demand immediate action to stop the persecution of the Rohingya or Korean people by Myanmarâs government.
I may have missed it, but agitation to end the war in Sudan or in the Democratic Republic of Congo, or Mali, or Ethiopia, does not seem to energise our campuses.
And nor is there any suggestion, other than with Israel, that the errors or even crimes of a countryâs leaders should necessitate the end of that countryâs independent existence.
Factor 8, one of the organisations campaigning on behalf of people affected by the infected blood scandal, has said Ken Clarke should have his peerage removed.
Michael Gove starts his speech by describing the 7 October Hamas attack as the largest pogrom against the Jewish people since the Holocaust.
But, soon after the attack, a remarkable thing happened. People started questioning whether the attack had happened, he says.
He quotes a Jewish peer saying in the weeks after the attack that he was more worried about the safety of his daughter in London than he was about the safety of his son, who was serving with the Israel Defence Forces.
Every day there are incidents of Jews experience antisemitism in the UK, he says. And pro-Palestinian marches are taking place regularly where compassionate peope, âdriven by a desire for peace and an end to sufferingâ, are marching side by side with people âpromoting hateâ. He goes on:
And we know now that it is genuinely dangerous for people to be openly, clearly proudly Jewish near these marches. At a time when weâre all encouraged to be our whole, authentic selves, to celebrate our identity, to be out and proud, there is only one group told that they and they alone can only be tolerated on terms set by others.
Michael Gove, the levelling up secretary, is about to give his speech on antisemitism.
There is a live feed here.
And here is Pippa Crerarâs preview story.
Minister says Ken Clarke has questions to answer, as infected blood campaigners say he should lose peerage over scandal
A cabinet minister has said Ken Clarke has questions to answer after campaigners said he should lose his peerage over his role in the infected blood scandal.
Clarke, who was a health minister and health secretary in the 1980s, was one of the former ministers criticised most explicitly in yesterdayâs report. Although Sir Brian Langstaff made it clear that the scandal went on for decades, and involved politicians and officials from multiple administrations, Clarke is a particular bête noir for campaigners because of the unsympathetic tone he struck when he gave evidence.
Des Collins, a solicitor representing victims of the scandal, told the Daily Telegraph: âThe chair to the inquiry thinks [Clarke] was wrong back in the day and I think yes, he should have his peerage stripped. Take no prisoners. There are a lot who havenât been singled out but he was one of them.â
This morning Clive Smith, chairman of the Haemophilia Society, told LBC that Clarke gave evidence to the inquiry that was âbreathtaking in the extremeâ.
Asked if Clarke should lose his peerage, Smith said:
We wrote to the upper house when it was suggested that he was going to get a peerage, saying âPlease donât do that yet, wait until the infected blood inquiry has reportedâ.
Now we have the conclusions of the infected blood inquiry report, I think our letter was well-timed and entirely accurate. The way in which he gave his evidence (to the inquiry) was appalling.
Yesterday Smith said Clarke should apologise to victims, not just for what he did as a minister, but for the manner in which he gave evidence to the inquiry.
Removing a peerage from someone is an extreme measure. It requires an act of parliament, and it has not happened since the first world war, when some peers lost their titles because they had supported Germany.
In an interview with Sky News this morning, Mel Stride, the work and pensions secretary, ducked a question about Clarkeâs peerage, saying that was a matter for the honours forfeiture committee.
But Stride did not fully support his Tory colleague, and he said Clarke had questions to answer. He said:
Sir Brian has come forward with some very strong observations of Ken, in the context of the scandal. Clearly there are questions that Iâve no doubt Ken will be addressing in time.
As PA Media reports, in 1983, an Aids leaflet was published alongside a press release in which Lord Clarke said: âIt has been suggested that Aids may be transmitted in blood or blood products. There is no conclusive proof that this is so.â That line was repeated over several years.
Langstaff said in his report on Monday:
This line to take, whilst technically correct, was indefensible. It did not spell out the real risk. It gave false reassurance.
It lacked candour and, by not telling the whole truth, was misleading.
It was not an accurate reflection of the (Department of Healthâs) actual understanding, which was that it was likely that Aids was transmitted through blood and blood products.
No minister challenged the âno conclusive proofâ line. They should have done.
Max Hill, a former director of public prosecutions, said this morning that, although the corporate manslaughter charge could not be used to prosecute people involved in the infected blood scandal, other options were available.
He told Times Radio:
If the evidence is there, there is no bar to an investigation and a prosecution.
Now, sadly, corporate manslaughter came into force as a criminal offence on April 6, 2008 â much too late to deal with this case.
However, there are other criminal offences which pre-date corporate manslaughter, where individuals have a duty of care and [if] they breached that duty in a gross way â thatâs a legal term â they can be held liable.
Gross negligence manslaughter comes to my mind and also misconduct in public office.
Itâs not for me to know whether either of those are feasible in these circumstances, but the criminal law does provide answers such as this even decades after the event.
Austrian chancellor says Rwanda-style policies needed to deal with EU's illegal migration problem after meeting with Sunak
The Austrian chancellor, Karl Nehammer, has described Rwanda-style deportation policies as âpart of the solutionâ to the problem posed by illegal migration.
Nehammer backed Rishi Sunakâs flagship policy after the two leaders met in Vienna this morning for talks. In comments to the press afterwards, Nehammer said that he supported âthe British path and the British modelâ for dealing with illegal migration and he welcome the fact that 15 EU countries have now spoken out in favour of gettting safe third countries to process asylum seekers.
In a message posted on X, Nehammer also thanked Sunak for his âstrong supportâ on this issue.
Prime Minister @RishiSunak and I agree: asylum procedures should be carried out in safe third countries. This approach requires robust protection of Europeâs external borders alongside the establishement of well-functioning asylum centers in these third countries. Thank you for your strong support.
In their joint appearance before the media, Sunak said that illegal migration has become âtruly one of the defining issues of our timeâ and that âwe face criminal gangs that are growing in strength across the European continent and beyondâ.
He said Nehammer had been âright on this issue for a long timeâ and has been bringing attention to it in Europe. He added:
Itâs increasingly clear that many other countries now agree that that is the approach that is required â bold, novel, looking at safe country partnerships.
Minister claims it's 'not inconceivable' that officials or politicians could face prosecution over infected blood scandal
Good morning. Today there will be further reaction to the vast and damning report from Sir Brian Langstaffâs infected blood inquiry. Rishi Sunak told MPs yesterday that the government would pay âcomprehensive compensation to those infected and those affected by this scandalâ and John Glen, the Cabinet Office minister, will make a statement to the Commons on this after 12.30pm. But there is also increasing interest in whether any of those responsible may face prosecution.
Mel Stride, the work and pensions secretary, was doing a media round this morning and he described prosecutions as ânot inconceivableâ. Asked if officials or politicians could be taken to court over what happened, Stride replied:
I think all of those things should and will be looked at ... I have no doubt that all of those things will be extremely carefully looked at, because in that 2,700-page report, there are many questions and many short failings that have surfaced, and they all need to be looked at very carefully. And it is not inconceivable that what youâve described may be something that transpires.
Stride is one of several politicians giving speeches on what is set to be a busy day for political news. Here is the agenda for the day.
Morning: Rishi Sunak is meeting Karl Nehammer, the Austrian chancellor, in Vienna.
10am: Michael Gove, the levelling up secretary, gives a speech on antisemitism.
10.45am: Angela Rayner, the deputy Labour leader and shadow levelling up secretary, gives a speech on Labourâs plans for new towns.
11am: Mel Stride, the work and pensions secretary, gives a speech on welfare reform.
11.30am: Downing Street holds a lobby briefing.
Lunchtime: The government is due to publish a long-awaited report from John Woodcock (Lord Walney) on political violence and disruption.
After 12.30pm: John Glen, the Cabinet Office minister, gives a statement to MPs on compensation for victims of the infected blood scandal.
2.30pm: Andrew Mitchell, the deputy foreign secretary, and Alan Mak, a trade minister, give evidence to the Commons business committee on arms exports to Israel.
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